tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19580203.post754754403061979471..comments2024-02-07T00:13:30.741-08:00Comments on The Existentialist Cowboy: NTSB Filght Data: Official 'Explanation' of Flight 93 is a Criminal Fraud!Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04598093941551759917noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19580203.post-40773808825511647472008-08-24T22:41:00.000-07:002008-08-24T22:41:00.000-07:00The opening ceremony for the Beijing Olympics used...The opening ceremony for the Beijing Olympics used something like that too I believe. The fireworks show wasn't all real at all, but instead blended the live footage with a 3d graphics production that had been worked on for some time beforehand.<BR/>http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Beijing-Olympics-Opening-Ceremony-Faked-Firework-Footprints-Added-For-TV/Article/200808215075291?f=rss<BR/><BR/>It's not the same as the real time editing but it's being done a lot more than people think for sure.timkinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10150017325857753009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19580203.post-77237293852227345812008-08-24T18:58:00.000-07:002008-08-24T18:58:00.000-07:00Len,Kudos for the expose, and same to Damien!!Is t...Len,<BR/>Kudos for the expose, and same to Damien!!<BR/><BR/>Is this being circulated on the usual venues...911Blogger, etc.? Have you all seen 911Missinglinks yet? If not, hit 911missinglinks.com for one helluva video!!<BR/><BR/>Thanks,<BR/>StyveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19580203.post-32580833149259468892008-08-24T17:51:00.000-07:002008-08-24T17:51:00.000-07:00The Wilmington Trust details are very interesting ...The Wilmington Trust details are very interesting indeed, Asass. Many thanks. So let's get this straight, Wilmington Trust has sold its Bear Sterns holdings to J.P. Morgan Chase at fire sale prices and those Bear Sterns Holdings are held in a trust arrangement on behalf of -- amongst others -- a bunch of Turkish companies and a handful of US companies tied to high level US mostly Republican insiders. Alarm bells are ringing! This is Sibel Edmond's territory in spades (<A HREF="http://lukery.blogspot.com/2008/07/west-point-terrorism-expert-turkish.html" REL="nofollow">here </A>, <A HREF="http://lukery.blogspot.com/2008/08/sibel-edmonds-case-fbi-agents-generally.html" REL="nofollow">here </A> and <A HREF="http://lukery.blogspot.com/2008/08/sibel-edmonds-case-richard-perle.html" REL="nofollow">here </A>). A collection of US, Turkish and Israeli companies up their necks in drugs and arms trafficking, the AQ Khan network and the illegal transfer of US nuclear weapons technology. Now it appears they are engaged in either shorting the market or completing a "pump and dump" financial strategy. I'll check the links. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19580203.post-28473463852678326872008-08-24T16:38:00.000-07:002008-08-24T16:38:00.000-07:00(picky: misspelled "Filght" in your title)I would ...(picky: misspelled "Filght" in your title)<BR/><BR/>I would like to direct your attention to this post:<BR/><BR/>http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2008/08/debunking-nists-conclusions-about-wtc-7.html<BR/><BR/>...and this one...<BR/><BR/>http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2008/08/stack-of-reports-proves-it-office.htmlBig Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11750364112179020584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19580203.post-42610410032767976012008-08-24T14:52:00.000-07:002008-08-24T14:52:00.000-07:00And check this out: http://911logic.blogspot.com/W...And check this out: <BR/><BR/>http://911logic.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>We know that WTC COULD NOT have fallen as a result of kerosene fires. That leaves ONLY 'controlled demolition' as a credible explanation. <BR/><BR/>So --why bother to actually crash an airliner??????Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04598093941551759917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19580203.post-87202273147339315012008-08-24T14:31:00.000-07:002008-08-24T14:31:00.000-07:00Lying With Pixelshttp://web.archive.org/web/200007...Lying With Pixels<BR/>http://web.archive.org/web/20000711055157/http:/www.techreview.com/articles/july00/amato.htm<BR/>Seeing is no longer believing. The image you see on the evening news could well be a fake—a fabrication of fast new video-manipulation technology.<BR/>By Ivan AmatoAsasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10263370562314792126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19580203.post-6496554972547857402008-08-24T14:28:00.000-07:002008-08-24T14:28:00.000-07:00following the money, http://64.233.169.104/search?...following the money, <BR/>http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:R-Iqxfq96aUJ:www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi%3Fnoframes%3Bread%3D122296+amy%27s+bear+stearns+fake+plane&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us<BR/><BR/>can't write to you anymore, have tried to find your new email addy..Asasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10263370562314792126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19580203.post-25798584474709847482008-08-24T14:24:00.000-07:002008-08-24T14:24:00.000-07:00hey Len, WILMINGTON TRUST SELLS OFF BEAR STERNS BA...hey Len, <BR/>WILMINGTON TRUST SELLS OFF BEAR STERNS BANK IN MAJOR STOCK SHORT-SELL AT LAST MINUTE<BR/><BR/>"Wilmington Trust Corp. scrambled today to clarify its relationship to Bear Stearns Cos. after news broke that the banking giant had sold itself to J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. at a fire-sale stock price.<BR/><BR/>As of Feb 22, regulatory filings showed Wilmington Trust as the major shareholder of record in Bear Stearns, with more than 18 percent of the company's stock.<BR/><BR/>None of it, however, is actually owned by the bank itself.<BR/><BR/>"It's another one of these situations that's not what it appears,"said Wilmington Trust spokesman Bill Benintende. "It's part of the trust and custody business."<BR/>---<BR/>In its February filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, Wilmington Trust said its clients held 27.3 million shares of Bear Stearns, valued at the time at about $2 billion. Shortly after the New York Stock Exchange's opening today, Bear Stearns' price was about $3 a share. At $3 a share, Wilmington Trust's February stake would be worth about $82 million.<BR/><BR/>In a statement released at 11:30 a.m., the bank said it does not directly own these 27.3 million shares of Bear Stearns and does not provide investment advice for "99.9 percent of this portfolio."<BR/>"Wilmington Trust has always prided itself on prudent and conservative investments,' said University of Delaware macroeconomics professor Burton A. Abrams, noting that the bank is viewed as being "well-run, well managed," and has traditionally stayed away from the kind of mortgage derivatives that eventually began to turn into bad bets." http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080317/BUSINESS/80317012<BR/><BR/>Actually this appears to raise more ALARMING questions then it answers, and the media has every right to get up in front and raise significant storm over it. Well run and managed? Like well run and managed enough to HIDE EVIDENCE of major money laundering and cover-up of September 11 attacks? Are you sure you're well managed and aren't LYING to the entire public? Why sell Bear Sterns now?<BR/><BR/><BR/>WILMINGTON TRUST<BR/>"<BR/><BR/>Turkey Istanbul B737-400 CFM56-3C1 24691 9-Aug-90 23,850Turkey Pegasus B737-400 CFM56-3C1 24684 1-Apr-90 23,893<BR/>Turkey Pegasus B737-400 CFM56-3C1 24687 25-May-90 23,587Turkey Pegasus B737-400 CFM56-3C1 26081 10-Mar-93 26,293<BR/>Turkey Turk Hava Yollari B737-400 CFM56-3C1 24917 24-Jun-91 24,780Turkey Turk Hava Yollari B737-400 CFM56-3C1 25181 3-Feb-92 25,093<BR/>Turkey Turk Hava Yollari B737-400 CFM56-3C1 25184 2-Mar-92 25,343Amendment dated June 29, 2000by and among Wilmington Trust Company, as<BR/>Delaware Trustee, and the Controlling Trustees referred to therein, to theAirplanes US Trust Amended and Restated Trust Agreement among AerFi Inc.,<BR/>as Settlor, Wilmington Trust Company and the Controlling Trustee1-May-79 16787 Turkey Istanbul B737-400 CFM56-3C1 24683 7-Aug-90 23863 Turkey ...<BR/><BR/>http://sec.edgar-online.com/2000/08/14/12/0000950103-00-000953/Section12.asp<BR/>"N334AA is De-registered<BR/>http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=334AA&cmndfind.x=13&cmndfind.y=14<BR/>American Airlines Flight 77<BR/>N644AA is De-registered<BR/>http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=644AA&cmndfind.x=13&cmndfind.y=16<BR/>United Airlines Flight 175<BR/>N612UA De-registered<BR/>http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=612UA&cmndfind.x=19&cmndfind.y=10<BR/>United Airlines Flight 93<BR/>N591UA De-registered<BR/>http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=591UA&cmndfind.x=17&cmndfind.y=16<BR/><BR/>ALL FLIGHTS....DE-REGISTERED<BR/><BR/>"All truth passes through three states," wrote Arthur Schopenhauer. "First it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." <BR/><BR/>much to see here read editors notes we get help from Norway:)<BR/>http://www.livevideo.com/socialservice <BR/><BR/>http://911logic.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>researchers welcome<BR/>shill and tricksters will be dismissed.<BR/>http://forum.911movement.org/Asasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10263370562314792126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19580203.post-20989877976498373532008-08-24T10:42:00.000-07:002008-08-24T10:42:00.000-07:00benmerc sez...I find your effort truthful and accu...benmerc sez...<BR/><BR/><EM>I find your effort truthful and accurate. Certainly your efforts in critical thinking in presenting much physical evidence, laws of physics and basic rules & laws concerning our justice system and how it should be dealing with 9-11.</EM><BR/><BR/>My humble thanks. While I find it distressing that anyone still believes Bush's official theory, that anyone still finds Bush believable about anything, my objection is not that his 'thoery' is believed but that it is believed for emotional and fallacious reasons, in other words, all the WRONG reasons, that it is believed without any critical examination whatsoever, that is believed by millions who cannot even defend it and cannot even articulate their own reasons for believing it. <BR/><BR/>These folk could be right but wouldn't know why! In fact, they are wrong --but still don't know why! <BR/><BR/>It was David Hume (as I recall) who stated that there was a moral imperative to be intelligent. If that is true, then America has gone to hell. My next article will be about how completely irrelevant this campaign/election is and how the next election won't matter.<BR/><BR/>WWII, Nuremberg specifically,<BR/>at least, left us with the hope that evil might not triumph, that crimes of genocide and mass murder would not go unpublished forever. <BR/><BR/>Some 72 million people died in World War II. At Nuremberg, the living said: these 72 millions have not died in vain. The living, then, assumed the existential responsibility, an awesome moral burden of ensuring that the most destructive war in human history would not repeat to waste the lives, dreams, and hopes of those still living and those not yet born.<BR/><BR/>At this point, Americans are still proving themselves easily diverted by whatever moves, talks and has a slogan. I see no sea change in attitudes. Crimes at least as heinous as those associated with WWII will go unpunished.<BR/><BR/>I wish I could be more optimistic.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04598093941551759917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19580203.post-90426285356998859032008-08-24T08:45:00.000-07:002008-08-24T08:45:00.000-07:00Len,I have not read all that you have written on t...Len,<BR/><BR/>I have not read all that you have written on this matter, but for much of what I have read, I find your effort truthful and accurate. Certainly your efforts in critical thinking in presenting much physical evidence, laws of physics and basic rules & laws concerning our justice system and how it should be dealing with 9-11.<BR/><BR/>I also do believe what I have read of the "official" 9/11 report was if not vague, or over simplistic, it also appeared down right incompetent in nature. It is amazing, yet not surprising that Americans put up with this, I say that because just about every person I have engaged on this subject does not believe much of what the government has stated, and that is the same for the Kennedy assignations etc. et al.<BR/><BR/>Our problem is clearly one of apathy, amorality and the effects of sheer decadence in consumption, just some of the natural Achilles heel's of a empire's demise. If in fact we do get beyond this schizoid/manic state we find ourselves in, and we are lucky enough to stabilize this government, we might have a shot at ferreting some of the rot out. I appreciate you efforts in seeking and finding truth, and your efforts to snap a moral consciousness back into play for the average American, your work is an incredible effort even as you face a rock wall of resistance.<BR/><BR/>I will not get into details, opinions and or assumptions (as I am not well studied or read enough) other then I believe there was a gross cover up of negligence and or possible conspiracy primarily concerning our governing federal bodies and the 9/11 incident. I would leave the details up to our best forensic scientists and legal specialists that could be assembled, in order to redeem some truths. I also believe that it is the LEGAL duty of our legislative branch to open and form committees concerning the general malfeasance of the 9/11 commission report. Will the politics or even the interior of our justice department allow that? Only time will tell, but if our recent history is any indication, I would doubt it. <BR/><BR/>benmercAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19580203.post-6329662811677042872008-08-24T00:43:00.000-07:002008-08-24T00:43:00.000-07:00Everything I said above can be stated more succinc...Everything I said above can be stated more succinctly:<BR/><BR/>You could produce a smoking gun --perhaps an actual tape recording of Bush ORDERING 911 or otherwise giving an unmistakable, unambiguous thumbs up to Rummie or whomever put the plan into action --and the American sheeple would fail to understand the significance of it!<BR/><BR/>If Bush got on TV and said "Yep ...ah ordered 911 because Ah-muhr-uh-ker needed it to fight tourism...uh..turrism...uh whatever!", thirty percent of Americans would carry the flag behind him into hell. And they would call YOU a traitor on their way in. <BR/><BR/>I would also wager that fewer than one in one thousand understand the significance of Nixon's 'White House Tapes'! Almost as many never even heard of them!<BR/><BR/>Though many will cite 'Occam' not one in several million have bothered to look it up and read it.<BR/><BR/>The US is absolute proof that Democracy cannot be entrusted to idiots. For a start --they don't even know what they have, lack the cognitive skills to figure out when they've been lied to, haven't a clue about how the judicial system works or what their rights are under the Constitution.<BR/><BR/>Gen. Michael Hayden is JUST SUCH AN IDIOT. Clearly --the man had NEVER bothered to read the Fourth Amendment. But that didn't keep him from shooting off his stupid mouth about it.<BR/><BR/>Millions of Americans must think the Bill of Rights totaled $3.98. <BR/><BR/>Many Americans think Occam's razor gives you a close shave. <BR/><BR/>Even more must think the Constitution is in dry dock somewhere on the east coast.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04598093941551759917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19580203.post-73951088522987471952008-08-24T00:16:00.000-07:002008-08-24T00:16:00.000-07:00damien sez...As a matter of law and science it is ...damien sez...<BR/><BR/><EM>As a matter of law and science it is for the proponents of a particular theory to present their evidence and prove their case. What happened to the passengers on 911 is for the government to prove (not just claim). So it is enough for critics of the official explanation to simply note physical discrepancies in order to safely reject the official explanation.</EM><BR/><BR/>America is still in denial if not outright delusion. There are several reasons but among the most obvious is the failure of the educational system to teach even rudimentary cognitive skills and you most certainly will never find and entire course in 'logic' at even the high school level. <BR/><BR/>Math is taught in all levels but I would be inclined to wager that the logical foundations of science are never taught in any required course. You won't get that until you major in either science or philosophy at university. Even then, it's up to theindividual to school himself. <BR/><BR/>The most frustrating aspect of every fatal flaw in Bush's theory is the attempt by Bush proponents to shift --fallaciously --the burden of proof. For example, Bush's official theory attributes the WTC collapses to the crash of airliners. If you cite the fact that such fires will not melt steel and have, in fact, never under any conditions melted steel, you are arrogantly asked: "Then why did the towers wind up in a pile at street level?"<BR/><BR/>The significance of the NTSB data is utterly lost on Americans. The most frustrating aspect is that NONE of the highly trafficked, so-called 'MAJOR' websites bothered to link to these articles. And --of course --we know that the MSM is not merely biased, it's corrupt to the very core. You can forget about the MSM EVER telling the truth about 911 --or anything else. <BR/><BR/>I will continue to write articles. But that doesn't mean I have to be polite to idiots who try to turn BIG HOLES in Bush's theories into refutations of legitimate and what, by rights, should be the silver bullets that finish Bush's lies off for good. <BR/><BR/>Bertolt Brecht summed it precisely: <BR/><BR/>"A man who does not know the truth is just an idiot but a man who knows the truth and calls it a lie is a crook!" <BR/><BR/>America has become a CROOKED nation!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04598093941551759917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19580203.post-66761795479285068822008-08-23T17:58:00.000-07:002008-08-23T17:58:00.000-07:00ps. Many thanks for the fp, Len. Not necessary per...ps. Many thanks for the fp, Len. Not necessary personally but it's always good to shift the public debate goal posts back to reality. Cheers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19580203.post-43116320768370947952008-08-23T17:33:00.000-07:002008-08-23T17:33:00.000-07:00Anonymous, your objection goes to the very heart o...Anonymous, your objection goes to the very heart of the matter, at least as far as public accountability is concerned. As Len has repeatedly made clear over the last few posts, in the system of accountable democracy that the US lives by it is the government's job to provide satisfactory explanations for large scale public disasters like 911. It is illegal and deeply immoral for the US government to hand out mere snippets of evidence to the public along with an account that has more holes in it than Swiss cheese. In effect, the US government is telling it's people "go fuck yourselves!" These bastards should be driven into the street for this effort. On something as deadly as 911 the US public (and the world at large) are entitled to real answers, not fiction. You may recall there was a public Challenger disaster inquiry in which the science was laid out for all to see. Yet we don't get that with 9/11. The NORAD officials lied their heads off about the failure of US air defenses on 911 and the 911 Commissioners seriously considered bringing perjury charges against them but chose not to do so. Instead, they gave the public a completely fictional account of the events of that day.<BR/><BR/>As a matter of law and science it is for the proponents of a particular theory to present their evidence and prove their case. What happened to the passengers on 911 is for the government to prove (not just claim). So it is enough for critics of the official explanation to simply note physical discrepancies in order to safely reject the official explanation. It is the government's theory; they must prove. Imagine the government claimed Challenger was shot down by the Russians yet the physical evidence suggested this could not have been. Would it have been up to the public to provide a detailed explanation of why the Challenger spacecraft was destroyed? Of course not. It's the government's theory, they must explain. So it is with 911. <BR/><BR/>I don't know what happened to the passengers. Perhaps a substitute plane crashed at Shanksville and the passengers of Flight 93 were gassed before being flown to a water grave in the Atlantic. Unlikely, I know. But the choice between rejecting an unlikely event and being asked to repeatedly reject established scientific principles falls squarely in favor of the science. The phone calls from Flight 93 were impossible. The hole in the ground is 75' wide and the plane is 125' wide. 200 airline seats are missing and there was no massive fire consistent with their destruction. The flight data recorder shows the plane impacting upside down at 40 deg to the horizontal, yet there are no markings where the tail would have to have met the ground and the only photos show a vertical impact. <BR/><BR/>It's a question of who you are going to believe: the government or your own senses and experience backed by established science. It is for the government to explain the events of 911. Their current explanation is a load of crock.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19580203.post-85163840860446911332008-08-23T08:36:00.000-07:002008-08-23T08:36:00.000-07:00anonymous sez...I agree that 911 was an inside job...anonymous sez...<BR/><BR/><EM>I agree that 911 was an inside job, but I always come up with the question of what happened to the actual passengers on those planes? Did the actual planes land somewhere and the passengers were killed?</EM><BR/><BR/>You wouldn't have been wondering about that had Bush ANYTHING OTHER THAN LIES AND BULLSHIT! <BR/><BR/>It is the very purpose of a 'theory'--even 'official' ones --to explain! Now, if Bush expects us to believe a load of codswallop about Planes crashing here and there and everywhere, he should, at the very least, come up with a credible cover story. <BR/><BR/>It is an INDICTMENT of the American educational system that Bush was allowed to get away with such transparent utter bullshit for as long as he did! <BR/><BR/>And even worse --anyone daring to demand a real investigation that might have answered your questions and mine, were demonized, called traitors, liberals, French, or Dixie Chicks fans. <BR/><BR/>Like you, I eagerly await a CREDIBLE explanation about what happened to the folk who were on board Flight 77 if, indeed, there was such a Flight. <BR/><BR/>I also eagerly await the results of a REAL investigation by a federal grand jury willing to put Bush, Cheney, Rummie, Rice, Powell and many others under oath.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04598093941551759917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19580203.post-23736391208625932812008-08-23T08:08:00.000-07:002008-08-23T08:08:00.000-07:00I agree that 911 was an inside job, but I always c...I agree that 911 was an inside job, but I always come up with the question of what happened to the actual passengers on those planes? Did the actual planes land somewhere and the passengers were killed?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com