Bush's approval rating of some 18 percent (give or take a gopper) approaches zero. We're talking black holes and singularities here. This historic plunge is traced to numerous hoaxes Bush pulled on the American people: Iraq, the economy, a phony war on 'tehrruh', the GOPs elitist agenda. Bush has gotten away with it because the GOP are trained to believe whatever is repeated three times. Lately, Bush followers have surpassed the high standards of Lewis Carroll, believing "as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Among them is Bush's 'official conspiracy theory' of 911. The causes officially given for the incidents are not a sufficient explanation for what actually happened on that day, especially as regards the logistics of this highly sophisticated operation and the very advanced infrastructure required for it.As Bush hangs by a thread, there is a list of indictments for which he could hang later. As the Bush 'vision thing' crashes and burns, an increasingly tiny band of loud mouthed GOP cultists, deniers of science and logic, born again believers in fairy tales and miracles are left only their loud mouths and astounding intellectual challenges. I am referring, of course, to gullible folk whose ancestors most certainly burned witches in Europe and hanged them at Salem. In other words, the born again believers in Bush's 'official conspiracy theory of 911'.Instead of dealing with the contradictions and inconsistencies in the official version of events and the numerous gaps in terms of the factual information, a “dogma of political correctness” has been promulgated according to which 19 Islamic-inspired Arab hijackers, directed by an elusive “Al-Qaeda” (“base”), succeeded in carrying out the atrocities all by themselves.
--Scoop, Dr. Hans Koechler: 9/11 may have been an insider job
It makes no sense to believe a man about one thing when he has told nothing but lies about everything else. What makes 911 different? As Dr. Hans Koechler points out, it has become 'politically correct dogma'. As Ronald Reagan's 'trickle down theory' and 'fundamentalist Christianity' has done for 'true believers', the 'official conspiracy theory of 911, relieves its 'true believers' of responsibility for their 'sins' and places it with a 'rag tag band' of 'evil terrorists'. The GOP's faith in the 911 orthodoxy has become a secular religion, akin to their unquestioned belief in Christianity, a faith --not a science --in which they are relieved of responsibility, forgiven all sins in exchange for merely believing a 'dogma' for which there is not a shred of logic or fact in support. The 'terrorists' have become Christ-like. They have borne America's collective guilt and died for our sins.
The good news is that we true skeptics have won this debate. Our case is logical and precise. As the case against Bush grows stronger, that of Bush's authoritarian officialists grows more desperate, its partisans more shrill and nonsensical. When freepers, GOP hypocrites and 'bitter enders' descend into utter lunacy, the debate is over. We win!
Among the more absurd fallacies indulged by Bush apologists is an attempt to 'spin' the Bush administration's refusal to release all the photos taken of whatever it was that crashed into the Pentagon. The attempt ignores the fact that the photos were ordered seized by the Bush administration. With absurd circular fallacies, Bush officialists criticize 'us' for not having seen the photos. That, of course, is precisely the problem and precisely our complaint. The photos, evidence of a crime, were not released, in fact, covered-up in an act of obstruction of justice --a felony! There is the very real possibility that all have been destroyed by now. Missing the point and mistaking conclusions for premises, however, is to be expected from a political wing that most surely has more idiots in it than is statistically normal!Another idiocy typical of Bush partisans involves what firefighters called a 'punch out' hole in the inner ring. Bush kiss ups, in a masterpiece of circular logic, claim that the hole cannot be evidence of a missile because, uh... 'there is no evidence of a missile.' That this is said with a straight face is evidence of the utter failure of the American educational system.
A theory --even stupid 'official theories' that are handed down from the top --must account for every observed phenomenon. What Johnny Cochran said of a glove can be said of every theory: if it does not fit, you must acquit! The 'official theory' fails that very first and critical test. Just as Newtonian physics cannot account for the slowing of clocks at near light speeds, the official conspiracy theory of 911 does not, cannot explain the Pentagon punch-out hole, an observed phenomenon of which photos were made. Contrary to what Bush officialists would have you believe, the 'hole' is evidence of something and that 'something' is not a 757, of which there is nary a scrap.
Besides --Bush's brigade of official conspiracy theorists have stated on this blog that 757 airliners --made of aluminum --simply vaporized, that is, turned into a gas upon hitting the Pentagon outer wall at some 530 MPH. Lunacy!
The official conspiracy theorists simply cannot get their stories straight. Did the 757 vaporize? Or did it manage to shrink sufficiently to create and 'get through' the tiny punch out hole in the inner ring? Or --are we to believe that the hole has nothing to do with whatever it was that hit the Pentagon? Perhaps, the hole is a portal into another dimension, the Twilight Zone, where airliners turn into gasses, where evidence of something is evidence of nothing, and Alice is expected to believe six impossible things before breakfast. Though 911 is the GOP's last redoubt, I suspect Bush's warning of new terrorist attacks that would make 911 'pale by comparison' didn't 'test' well by GOP poll takers and spin-meisters. The pollsters should have interviewed Rudy Giuliani. As Guiliani's failed candidacy proves, the 'good ol' days' when a GOP candidate need only raise the specter of impossible tower collapses to stampede a gullible public are gone. Having lied about everything else, odds are Bush will never tell the truth about 911. But, if Guiliani's experience is worth anything, we might look forward to hearing less GOP demagoguery about 911. Trolls, however, have hot yet gotten the memo. The bullshit brigades are even more annoying than a Ron Paul supporter at a precious metals convention. Certainly, platitudes and fear tactics have a finite shelf life.
[T]he towers came straight down. Accordingly, the official theory, by implying that fire produced collapses that perfectly mimicked the collapses that have otherwise been produced only by precisely placed explosives, requires a miracle. [21]While only controlled demolitions are known to have exhibited the observed nature of the towers' falls, other experts, of differing backgrounds, find other fatal flaws in the official conspiracy theory. Dr. Hans Koechler has recently called the 'official conspiracy' theory a “dogma of political correctness”, characterizing the 'official theory' as one in which “19 Islamic-inspired Arab hijackers, directed by an elusive “Al-Qaeda” (“base”), succeeded in carrying out the atrocities all by themselves.“ But, of course, being superstition, it doesn't matter to Bush's ever dwindling base that none of the 'hijackers' were accomplished Cessna pilots. Miraculously, they flew airliners with impossible precision. The official conspiracy theory is a fairy tale told to gullible goppers to make them feel better about being greedy, self-absorbed goppers for whom America is superior to an inferior world. The official theory relieves them of all responsibility for GOP policies which have over a period of at least 30 years made terrorism worse. [See:Terrorism is Worse Under GOP Regimes] If the 'official conspiracy theory' had been designed to dull critical thinking abilities, it succeeded.--Why the Official Account Cannot Be True, David Ray Griffin
(11/10/01) Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th, malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists themselves, away from the guilty.In fact, the most outrageous conspiracy ever put forward by anyone at any time is the load of codswallop for which Bush has not offered a shred of admissible evidence. It is Bush's outrageous and official conspiracy theory which served Bush well by deflecting attention from his criminal administration, the many lies he told, the wars of naked aggression waged because of them. Indeed, let us not be distracted by 'outrageous conspiracy theories'. Let's concentrate on the probable cause, the legal standard required to bring Bush to trial for mass murder and high treason.--George W. Bush, November 10, 2001, Bush's address to the UN
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Yes, of course they managed the whole affair. They asked for it before hand. They moved the pawns around so it could happen. And they used its occurrence after it happened to excuse criminal acts that they commited and but wholly unrelated to this staged Pearl Harbor event. The molten steel in the basement of the World Trade Center definitively screams it did not even come close to happening the way the official story goes.
But the solution to these problems isn't to squawk endlessly about them. The solution is to put the truth out there as the Machiavellian acts these are. Teach it. Get to the bottom of the problem.
This sort of thing is going on every day to one degree or another in every facet of our culture.
The whole financial system is a fraud where the government is the biggest player in the stock markets and has been for years.
The whole system of education and scientific discovery is a fraud, and a dangerous one to boot! All the self-certified sock puppet intellectuals that set goals for our society are all on the take.
As long ago as when the philosopher Pliny wrote in ancient Rome, he knew of the tendency of humanity. Pliny wrote that he wished that iron had never been discovered, because it made war all the more terrible! We have come so very far... But these ancient truths remain.
Seneca wrote: I read in Epicurus today: "If you would enjoy real freedom you must be the slave of philosophy." The man who submits to her [real freedom] is emancipated there and then... The body, once cured, often ails again... but the mind, once healed, is healed for good and all. I shall tell you what I mean by health: if the mind is content and confident; if it understands that those things for which all men pray, all the benefits that are sought or bestowed, are of no importance in relation to a life of happiness.... I shall give you a rule by which to measure yourself and your development: in that day you will come into your own when you realize that the successful are of all men most miserable. (Will Durant translation)
So. Don't obfuscate the problem. It is all around us. Wherever there is esteem and power there is human corruption and deceit.
Don Robertson, The American Philosopher
As to the punch-out hole in the Pentagon's "C" ring, I've read stuff that says it was caused by a backhoe. Another writer says that it could have been a shaped charge.
A person like me, that knows that the entire "official" story is a lie, might be inclined to think that it was a missile. There's one problem, however. If something entered from outside the building and had enough destructive force to penetrate all the way through to the inner wall of that ring, then what would have kept it from going right on into the outer wall of "B" ring? There's nothing between them but air. I think the backhoe theory has merit, especially when you observe the markings on either side of the hole. Some photographs block these details out, though -- you have to see the ones with a wider angle.
You hit the nail on the head--gullible, insane America will believe anything if repeated often enough.
Remember,Joseph Goebbels: "If you tell a lie long enough, it becomes the truth.
Barbara Diamond
http://barbaradiamond.blogspot.com
The events of the day are important. But so are the events of the summer and spring of 2001.
In the spring of 2001, the FAA amended their flight control policy and turned off Radar targeting and relied only on transponder beacons. This means that flight control towers were blind to any flights that did not have a transponder.
In the summer of 2001, the FAA reversed a 40 year policy that allowed pilots to pack pistols.
We've all heard the WTC janitor's account of that morning. We've all read the affidavit of the DBA citing the [first time ever] complete power down of the towers the week end before 9 slash 11.
We know that Marvin Bush was head honcho for the WTC Security Service.
We have seen the videos of both FOX and the BBC reporting the fall of WTC 7 20 minutes (with it still framed in the live shot behind them] before it actually fell.
We heard Larry Silverstein, who cashed in on a profitable unique terror insurance policy confess to pulling WTC 7 (it would have been nice to have informed the NYPD and FDNY before you did it Larry). The Towers had been twice condemned for asbestos. Larry bought them knowing they were subject to an environmental waiver - then he bought double indemnity terror insurance on them. On 9 slash 11, Larry's assets were the only assets in Manhattan with that kind of coverage.
We heard the countdown to the WTC 7 "pull" through a Red Cross Blackberry.
We know about the SEC evidence that got destroyed when WTC 7 (not hit by anything) fell.
We know at the time of 9 slash 11, Robert Kimmit, who was CEO at United Defense, was also Foreign Policy Editorial Board Director at Time Warner/CNN (no wonder 9-11 quen for a day Paula Zahn had such a good view as she consoled us poor Americans). Robert Kimmit is now an official at Treasury and his brother, General Kimmit, transferred from Abu Gharib to the Pentagon.
We all remember those anonymous men in the streets who were all of a sudden experts on sky scrapper construction giving the yokels in dog patch the "structural failure" ruse to hang our hats on.
We remember as the stage was being set for Rudy Gigliani to become Americas Mayor using the backdrop of the WTC ruin, a pristine Arab passport was pulled from the rubble, despite the fact that no Arab names were on any of the flight manifests, and no Arab DNA in the autopsies. The pristine passport was found - but to date neither of the flight recorders from the ace of aces flown planes has been found.
We saw the gray, pristine primer fuselage plants on the Pentagon Lawn, despite the fact the plane was aluminum, not painted. And of course, the only person in the world who could see the plane in the FBI video was Glenn Beck.
9 slash 11 was only a single day, but it took years to plan and coordinate.
Most of our [s]elected government and their corporate owners will be hanged or die in prison when the truth is made public.
Cadavre
I grew out of cowboy country - West Texas.
The points you address are indeed quite substantial, much more so than the official CT that has been promulgated by everyone and anyone associated with the Buscists. What has been relied upon was an emotional reaction to an event that has had really no real effect on the American way of life, other than to remove two buildings that were deemed obsolescent to begin with and to perhaps rebuild a part of the Pentagon that needed something else done to it.
We've seen in who knows how many movies, TV shows, and documentaries the precise implosion of buildings that allow them to fall on their own footprint. The impression I had of the two towers (sounds kinda like 'Lord of the Rings', another science fantasy) was that of a stack of LP records (or even 45s) falling down on the spindle (you might recall them olden dayze when the thingy stuck and all the platters came down at one, except for the one that hung up on the mechanism, tottering perilously).
Vapourised aerospace vehicles? Too many crashes seen and read about to take this as being realistic. Even fully loaded jet fighters are recoverable after they've nosed into the ground. Too little official propaganda released to be credible, avoiding using some footage that could have bolstered their points of view with even the pollsters. As was seen a short time later, in NYC and Florida (I think), airplanes crashing don't evaporate, unless they're 80 stories in the air.
What is usually relied upon is the compliance of the technologically ignorant press that reports only what they can deem as being from legitimate sources. Any of the engineers and other experts who decried the official CT have been long known but otherwise silenced by the shrill shrieks of the corporate nay-sayers. Even those who might have known about a remote control system for hijacked aircraft (to override the on-board systems from the ground) have had their voices lost in the processes, sort of like the big crowd at Howard Dean's famous hollering speech, picked up by the special microphone that was designed to concentrate on his voice in the presence of large numbers of people and lots of background noise. Even the television entertainment journalist announcers (TEJAs)missed that one (except for Diane Sawyer)!
Once more, the gullibility of the masses is being employed, people reacting to things without giving sufficient thought to the matters, not having any real means of determining what is tending toward truth and what is leaning toward falsehood. Even Ru-Dee was touted as some sort of hero, until *Grand Illusion* came out to dispell many of the claims of manliness and calm promoted by the TEJAs. All Ru-Dee could see was his route to zee-zee-zee TOP, the Big Top of political circuses, without even a single pair of cheap sunglasses! (Of course, Ru-Dee had about as much to do with heroics as the SouthEast Texas band has to do with Ru-Dee or any discussion thereof!) Ru-Dee had too many problems staring into the lights of his 'Eliminator,' looking like a deer about to become a hood ornament before being rendered into venison.
Indeed, the 'tewwowists' became 'Christ-like,' having been identified as the ones who came to destroy the money-changers' temples and attack the legionnaires' lair. Unfortunately, the culture responds too quickly and too well to martyrs, those who die for who knows whose sins and how many. The end result - aside from domestic shock 'n awe - has been an enculturation about the Islamic world, learning and knowing about those who had been shunned by the 'West' for millennia, a former form of 'political correctness,' played out yet again on the plains of Kosovo, playing fields for an old 'Christian' - 'Moslem' rivalry.
The result is indeed existential. The need for the Arabs' and Persians' oil and their compliance weighed against the insular 'Western' culture and its 'superiority' is critical in this period of World history. Whereas the 'ragheads' and others of the region have been vilified for aeons, even to the point of being occupied and suppressed, their perspectives have become all-important, all-encompassing, all-too-real. No longer able to be dismissed, only confrontation and cooperation is possible, taking their own issues into our hearts and minds, ours the only ones that need to be won. (THAT's the real conspiracy now that Americans have been caused to adopt 20 some odd million Iraqis!)
Don robertson said...
The solution is to put the truth out there as the Machiavellian acts these are. Teach it. Get to the bottom of the problem.
True enough, Don. Unfortunately, skeptics have been timid when confronted with Bush's well-oiled propaganda ministry. As you say, it's time to take the offensive. Apparently, the Bush apologists have found me very offensive lately. I must be doing something right.
Anonymous said...
A person like me, that knows that the entire "official" story is a lie, might be inclined to think that it was a missile.
A missile is a much better hypothesis than 757 in any case. It explains the 'punch out' as well as the narrow 'entry point'.
A fatal flaw in the official theory is the weight of a 757 ---Takeoff 255,000 lbs. A real investigation might have considered 'weighing' all the debris. As Damien, who posts regularly here, points out 8 tons of airliner minus spent fuel is still gong to come out to about 8 tons.
To get around it, an insane person tried to tell this forum that an airliner hitting a hard Pentagon wall at 530 MPH would completely vaporize. I pity anyone who really believes that. Bush, tragically, depends on that kind of ignorance.
Airliners do not vaporize. Even the Space Shuttle, hitting the stratosphere at about 24,000 MPH did not vaporize. Identifiable wreckage was recovered from a debris field that spanned three states. Even identifiable body parts were recovered.
In the case of the Pentagon, we are expected to believe that NO 'identifiable' body parts were recovered (read the deliberately ambiguous entries at the Arlington Nat'l Cemetary website). Whoever wrote the Arlington entry was a master of obsfuscation.
Thanks for the link, Barbara. And thanks for visiting.
anonymous said..
We know that Marvin Bush was head honcho for the WTC Security Service.
Method, motive, opportunity! Another incredible GOP coincidence brought to you by the masters of incredible odds-defying coincidences. Larry Silverstein is another such master. What ARE the odds that this loser, whose businesses interests were bleeding him, would, within months if not weeks, (there is an available timeline, BTW) collect billions for the destruction of the WTC. People have been known to kill other folk for five bucks. It is no stretch to consider the possibility that Silverstein who clearly ordered Bldg 7 "pulled" was lined up to collect booty.
9 slash 11 was only a single day, but it took years to plan and coordinate.
And they made much more money than the blackjack pros from England.
Alamaine said...
Vapourised aerospace vehicles? Too many crashes seen and read about to take this as being realistic. Even fully loaded jet fighters are recoverable after they've nosed into the ground.
I covered fighter crashes as a young reporter. Later, small crashes and airliner crashes. A mere crash will never burn hotter than the very source of the fire --the fuel, in fact, kerosene. Of all the horrible scenes I've seen, I have never witnessed a airliner or fighter jet simply vaporizing. It might vaporize if it crashed into the sun. Of the charred bodies I've witnessed, I was surprised (at that time) that they had appeared to have shrunk.
What is usually relied upon is the compliance of the technologically ignorant press that reports only what they can deem as being from legitimate sources. Any of the engineers and other experts who decried the official CT have been long known but otherwise silenced by the shrill shrieks of the corporate nay-sayers.
That's certainly true in most cases. Before 'media consolidation', it was still possible to find reporters who did not think of themselves in "show biz". I have in mind specifically, Ed Murrow's 'boys' --William Shirer, Walter Cronkite, Richard C. Hottelet, et al. Bushies should never have been allowed to get away with re-writing the laws of physics.
There is a photo of the object that hit the Pentagon.
It is frame one of the 5 frame clip released by the government March 2002. If you look at frames two thru five, you will see the fire ball growing in size. You also see a trail of white exhaust leading into the fireball. The object that produced the exhaust can be seen in frame one.
Looking at frame one, look just above the right hand orange traffic cone. The exhaust is white an squiggly as it exits a jet turbine engine in a vortex pattern. To the left and just over the top of the parking lot ticket dispenser is the fast moving object. It is dark colored against a dark background. It has a V shaped tail and appears to have a white colored belly. It is not a large silver colored commercial airliner with mid positioned engines.
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/023.html
Anonymous said...
There is a photo of the object that hit the Pentagon.
And there is the animated gif of it as well. I think I saved it.
Here is a link to a page that display the animated gif version as it was photographed by the security camera and, below that, a version that shows what it would have looked like had it really been an airliner that struck the Pentagon.
My feeling about this pic is that 'they' released it only because it was the one that was safe for them because it is inconclusive. However, it does prove what DID NOT crash the Pentagon. And that would be a 757.
Thanks for the reminder.
Bush's only chance to save himself in history is to turn in everyone else for immunity.
This would mean the war machine and all it's backers.
Will it happen?
YA NABER NO!
I suspect there big money to be made taking wagers on whether the Bushites will turn over the White House and the Presidency in a peaceful, lawful manner to the next elected "president" as prescribed BY LAW...
OR -
if they will concoct a reason to evade that eventuality by declaring a national emergency and martial law after they conduct another demonstration of their ability to conduct terror attacks on "the homeland."
They may simply say: "Look people: we murdered 3,000 innocent civilians in cold blood, in broad daylight on 9/11 and we can do it again at any time if we decide the population needs to be put in it's place... So, shut up and GO SHOPPING!"
This may not seem to be important to some, but it is something that has been bugging me for quite some time. It's the fact that virtually no one will use the correct spelling of bin Laden's first name: Usama, not Osama. The MSM liars are the one's who changed it. I think that those of us who say we desire the truth, if we don't even use the man's correct name but instead use the "official" spelling....well, I'll let everyone decide for themselves what statement that may or may not make. By the way, the FBI still spells it with a U. Check out their most wanted website. And they still haven't charged him with anything in connection with 9/11 or the bombing in '93. Of course not. He didn't do it.
Anonymous, both Osama and Usama are correct, there is not a fixed spelling from the translated Arabic name and from the Arabic script. For example, one may write Mohammed and Muhammad, both are correct and are the same name. Likewise, Russian names are phonetically rendered and can be spelled in several different ways from the Russian Cyrillic into our Latin script. My last name (a Russian name), which I won't reveal here, can be spelled in more than a dozen ways in Latin script, but it is still the same name. Another example is Romanov and Romanoff - same name, different spellings.
Bin's name - Bin's words.
Just in time for a new war on sumpin or other with Trillions$ to be made, our elite owners' needed an Orwellian Emanuel Goldstein, to boost their oil and genocide exchange margins.
Remember, at war start oil was 25 Bucks a barrel - we are in - have been and will be in an oil glut for quite a long time. The world was getting used to fewer American fires in the third world and our prospects were good.
Then the 9 slash 11 miracles of miracles enjoined us in mass commiseration round the mind control machine of the main stream mafia. Together we chanted in our best born again hard patriotic sanctimoniousnesses:
Kill Kill Kill!
Problem is, and always will be, that old Bin has denied, in writing, having anything to do with 9 slash 11. ANd the FBI does not have enough to get an indictment against him.
And of course I hope we all know that flight control instructions can be uploaded to commercial air assets and take the pilot completely out of the loop.
But it's not the minutia of missile verses fighter verses air liner. It's not the fact that the alleged hijackers packed a suitcase with a change of Jommies - underwear and clubbing outfits - along with - of course - AL KADA Terra stuff just in case any luggage inspector happened to open it. Suicide pilots that pack a change of socks. A first time for everything.
The ruse of the stun belt defendant, Mousaui, the alleged 19the hijacker. That guy was wearing a stun belt and flinched every time he responded to a question. The so called bad guy insiders said Mousaui was a mentally ill man who did not meet the admission requirements. Exculpatory evidence was withheld.
How many volts would it take to make anyone of us falsely confess to a crime.
Warhol's 15 minutes of fame morphed into daily 15 minute doses of hate. It takes a lot to motivate the mob to support mass murder.
It's not the minutia we need to try and control. We need to control the words used on a very basic and obvious level. For example, Iraq is not a war, an invasion, an occupation, Iraq is genocide. So is Afghanistan.
Saddam was not executed. He was murdered by a neo-con plot.
If you get a chance to ask a question on CSPAN or talk radio, here's the question to ask.
We learned that Iraq had no WMD program. We know that Iraq had nothing to do with AL KADA or 9 slash 11. On D-day, h-hour m-minute, what is the term we should used to describe the first Iraqi killed by US ordinance? If their was nor reason to be there - it's murder. If they lied to make it happen, it's first degree baby.
The war is not about controlling oil. Oil production is chock full of liabilities and costs. Better to be a middle man. The genocide is about the difference between the buy and sale of an oil contract - not about "control". It's about profits. It's about the margin that Exxon, or Shell, makes off the supply chain - and it a lot more than they would be making if they "controlled" it. Imagine peace broke out and Exxon has to live with 25$ Oil plus the costs of controlling it in an oil glut. Exxon recorded a record Eleven Billion Dollar cash in the last quarter 2007.
The best way to manipulate the oil market, especially if you're a middle man, is cook up a war.
Even Abu Gharib and the "oops" of the released images was not a "horrible truth" truth exposed. It was propaganda, Propaganda to anger Muslims. Propaganda to to convince us Muslims are angry.
"Them Arabs are near the breaking point folks. Where's that 6th lost war head from that Barksdale to Minot flighr back in September 2007. It's about time AL KADA (wink wink nod nod) dirty nuked an infidels' hood."
It's about money, honey! It's about words. Iraq - Afghanistan - they're not wars or missions or operations. They're genocide.
It's about Trillions of Dollars.
And it would not have been possible without the grand prime time theater of 9 slash 11 when two fat lumbering commercial air liners, on a clear autumn day, under control of "Flight Simulator" trained Muslims (who packed a suit case), defied the most expensive air defense system ever known, and flew right through one of the biggest Military Air Terror Drill Exercises on the books, and made our owners rich.
The best way to manipulate the oil market, especially if you're a middle man, is cook up a war.
That's what its all about. Politicians have learned what Hermann Goring had learned and that is such wars have to be wrapped up in pretty paper --religion, patriotism, mythology! 911 used all three and the American people fell for it like Felix for catnip.
People would be more willing and less fearful of adopting the views of 911 Truth activists if they felt they were calling for forgiveness rather than retribution and punishment.
The peace movement should call for granting amnesty from prosecution and guarantee of an ample, lifetime pension to anyone who agrees to testify on their roles in the events of 9/11, extending this offer to any members of the US government, foreign governments and/or terrorist groups involved in the planning or execution of the attacks of that day.
Additionally, individuals should step forward and volunteer to spend time working with those who give testimony on crimes they have committed so that they might be reintegrated into society.
Instead of executing Nazi war criminals we should have devoted all the human resources available to us to rehabilitating them, awakening in them awareness of the nature of their actions so that they could have come to understand that they must make amends. If they had remained alive they would have been a living testament to the transformative powers of forgiveness.
Historians and psychologists especially should come out in favor of preserving invaluable study material in the form of the opportunity to converse with the authors of unfortunate historical deeds.
A declaration of willingness to forgive would force the government's hand. If it were to arrest or make attempts to discredit someone calling for 911 truth plus forgiveness, that would be a tacit acknowledgement by the government of its complicity in the 9/11 attacks. Imagine the impact of footage on YouTube of police arresting demonstrators carrying signs reading: "I forgive you George Bush for 9/11." Perhaps even the passively complicit mainstream media could be convinced to show someone carrying a sign calling for amnesty for the perpetrators of 9/11.
If we consider ourselves morally superior to the government, we should propose actions and attitudes that are more humanitarian with respect to them than their actions have been with respect to us.
I strongly suspect that the white apartheid government in South Africa did not agree to fair elections until assured that they would not be executed or imprisoned by the black majority government when it came to power.
In "The Art of War", Sun Tzu said never to surround an enemy. If you do not leave him an out, he will fight to the last man
Finally, these ideas do not depend on the media for their dissemination. If you can convince six friends of the merit of these ideas and get them to tell six of their own friends tomorrow, each of whom tells six of their friends the next day, and so on, then the ideas will reach every person in the world in two weeks by word of mouth alone (do the math).
(to see an interesting discussion of these ideas, please see http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_joseph_s_070414_a_9_2f11__22smoking_gun_22.htm)
Don, my take on Nuremberg and, specifically, the Nuremberg Principles birthed by the experience is that its greatest, lasting achievement was its good faith attempt to establish principle of International law. As individuals are expect to abide by the laws of the nations of which they are a part, 'nations' and by extension, the leaders of those nations seemed to behave outside and above the principle of the very rule of law.
That was, of course, an intolerable situation. To his everlasting shame, Bush's legacy is that he and his neocon cabal worked actively and deliberately to subvert the Nuremberg Principles, the Geneva Convention --in other words, Bush worked insidiously to subvert the rule of law as it applied to nations and by extension to himself. These are the actions of a murderous dictator, a state absolutist for whom the law means nothing. It will be a long and difficult road ahead if the people of the United States are to 1) redeem themselves; 2) throw off the yoke of a mean-spirited repression and 2) re-establish its credibility throughout the world.
Bush is a patsy. He is probably afraid for his life. His "pretzel" incident was most likely not a drunken fall, but a full face beating. Mossad is behind this, as are LIKUDniks Sharon, Perez, Netzenyahoo, and Olmert. There are traitors in our midst, who's allegiance is Israel, first.
Don't blame the pasty. Bush is another fancier Oswald.
We have been taken over by a foreign nation.
Don, Bush is certainly not smart enough to have pulled this all off on his own. But he is most certainly not innocent. A good analogy is Faust! Bush sold his soul but no one held a gun on him. His father is as evil as they come. I have met and interviewed Sr several times. I wish I had kept the tapes. Sr mouthed words but never said anything. It was by design.
My thesis in several articles is that the GOP is NOT a political party. It is a crime syndicate and has all the characteristics of a kooky, evil cult. Cults and crime syndicates have at least this in common: they maintain a hierarchy in power by compromising people.
See Kurbrick's "Eyes Wide Shut".
Len Hart,
I think Bush was used, and had no idea what was going on. If you look at the tapes of Bush, sitting in the classroom that morning, it is apparent that he is scared out of his mind. He looks like a marked man, in fact. The real criminals are hiding behind him, and most of them have Russian names. Bolsheviks sacked and looted the former Soviet Union, and then emigrated to Israel, and took over there.
Check out their names. Some, like Sharon, have even changed their names, but many like Dov Zacheim, have no such shame, nor care if you figure it out.
We have to start naming names, and prosecuting to the fullest extent of the law. But, before we do that, we have to collectively grow some testicles and have the presence and courage to call them out, as they are, by name, and stop being afraid of their lobbies.
Here's an opportunity to get the debunkers:
"Challenge to Truthers: Stump Mark Roberts!
"Gravy from the JREF forums will appear again on Ron Wieck's Hardfire program, along with Arthur Scheuerman to discuss World Trade Center 7. The show will be live at 9:00 PM Eastern time tomorrow night, February 26. Having been unable to find a 9-11 "Truther" willing to debate these gentlemen, Ron will throw open the phone lines, and 9-11 conspiracy theorists are specifically encouraged to call in with their questions and challenges.
The main number is 718-935-9598. If it's busy, call 917-763-9896.
You can watch the show live tomorrow night here:
http://www.briconline.org/bcat/watch_bcat.asp"
From: http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2008/02/stump-mark-roberts.html
len, I am going to link these posts to my new blog, along with the video....
am I stupid, or what? what am I missing? why isn't anything being done to investigate this? why isn't a newspaper or some talking head screaming about this?
or is Amerika such a nation of sheep that no one gives a shit! yeah, I guess so -- we're more concerned about Brittney Spears....
hey, I've always said...if some aliens wanted to swoop down and take over the US, we'd be easy pickins'....
Hey, anon, the Israelis have an inordinate influence over US foreign policy, they spy on the US and the Israeli-Russian mafia are reportedly heavily involved in the US East Coast drug industry. But, leaving that aside, there seems to be little merit in generalized Israeli criticisms. They invite charges of anti-Semitism.
And ideologically based claims of Israeli involvement in 911 are unhelpful. There is some evidence of Israeli awareness of 9/11 and even possible involvement but such evidence needs to be qualified in order to avoid a heated, ideological debate.
I'm preparing an extended summary of the 911 issues relating to Israel and I hope to put it on my blog soon.
Israel's influence on US foreign policy has existed for decades and some say that influence has been inordinate and damaging to US foreign policy interests. It is not common knowledge, however, that Israel has extensively spied on the US.
In 1987 Jonathon Pollard, a former United States Naval civilian intelligence analyst, was sentenced to life in prison for spying for Israel:
He gave Israel top-secret U.S. military intelligence and diplomatic codes; names of nearly 100 U.S. agents in the Mideast, who were then "turned" by Israel; NSA code-breaking techniques and targets; intercepts of foreign communications; and U.S. war-fighting plans for the Mideast....According to CIA sources, Pollard provided Israeli intelligence with names of important American agents inside the former Soviet Union and Russia who had supplied information on East Bloc weapons and war plans...A number of key CIA agents in the East Bloc were allegedly executed as a result of Pollard's spying.
In Jan 2006 Larry Franklin, a Pentagon analyst on Iran, was sentenced to 12 years and seven months in prison after he plead guilty to passing classified military intelligence to Israel about Iran and Iraq. (also 1 2 3 4)
Importantly, Franklin's indicted co-conspirators were acting for AIPAC, the foremost US-Israel political liaison group within the US:
Steve Rosen, who for 20 years was the chief lobbyist over at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), and Keith Weissman, AIPAC's top foreign policy analyst, befriended Franklin and pumped him for top-secret information – including sensitive data about al-Qaeda, the Khobar Towers terrorist attack, Iran's weapons program, and attacks on U.S. soldiers in Iraq.
Franklin was part of a group of US policy makers and Pentagon officials committed to a US foreign policy reflective of Israel's interests.
It is also worth noting that Israel controls key features of US telecommunications allowing for easy spying:
Amdocs, which provides billing and directory assistance for 90% of the phone companies in the USA. Amdocs' main computer center for billing is actually in Israel and allows those with access to do what intelligence agencies call "traffic analysis"; a picture of someone's activities based on a pattern of who they are calling and when.
Another Israeli telecom company is Comverse Infosys, which subcontracts the installation of the automatic tapping equipment now built into every phone system in America. Comverse maintains its own connections to all this phone tapping equipment, insisting that it is for maintenance purposes only. However, Converse has been named as the most likely source for leaked information regarding telephone calls by law enforcement that derailed several investigations into not only espionage, but drug running as well.
Yet another Israeli telecom company is Odigo, which provides the core message passing system for all the "Instant Message" services.
Was Israel aware of a pending 911? Did they fail to warn the US? Did they warn some US nationals on the morning of 911 before the attacks? Were some Israeli agents monitoring the al Qaeda terrorists in the US? Were Israelis involved in a truck bomb incident on 911?
These, and other 911 issues, have been canvassed at various times. The evidence appears to me to be more likely than not that some elements of Israeli intelligence had been monitoring the al Qaeda terrorists closely and likely knew the attack was to occur. But I note also that both Saudi and Pakistan Intelligence were clearly aware that 911 was going to happen (although they may not have been aware of the exact date or the details). The whole evidence case for Israel and 911 needs careful, and qualified, examination.
Sometimes I think Israelis, like the rest of us are being played.
Israel is not making the trillions from arms and energy.
There are Israelis. There are Jews. There are criminals that call themselves Jews.
What is Israel? Aside from being the most despised state on the planet (followed by us truly), Israel, in a practical sense, is little more than a hideout for the mob bosses to conduct their business under protection of an impenetrable holocaust-mythology shield.
Israelis and Jews are being used just like the rest of us. It just so happens that for the time being, the mob bosses sayans laud Israel as the only democracy in the ME (err- what about Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan?) and enjoys the special protections borne of magical mythology ie: god gave Moses deed to some undefined plot of this or that called Israel (Moses was Iraqi!) and enforced through a manufactured history that could get a citizen arrested in many countries should a citizen be so unwise as to ask a question or challenged regarding that history.
US "born agains" are being played just like Israelis. Mythology and conditioned inadequacies.
AIPAC IS NOT an Israeli Lobby (but there are advantages to claiming to be so!). If AIPAC was the all powerful Israeli Lobby, then why is Israel the most hated state on earth? Why is Israel always at war? Why is Israel periodically unable to to pay public sector employees (for up to 6 months)? Why is Israel on the dowel to US taxpayers (30 Billion this year)? Because Israel and Jews are disposable to the Exchange, just like the rest of us. AIPAC is a lobby for the war and oil exchanges, and, along with other so called holocaust and settlement industries, hides behind Jews, all the while promoting hateful doctrine, dominion heresies and reformation.
When I think of Jews I am reminded of their gifts to usL Like a guy Christians and Muslims call Jesus, Albert Einstein and Benjamin H Freedman.
As Bin is today, so will be we and the Jew and Israel. The nice thing about managing the mob with an Emanuel Goldstein de'jure, is that there are just so many to choose from.
The man want's us to think in terms of Jews or Muslims or Commies or whatever. As long as we're occupied with their never ending flow of brain pablum, the less likely we ask meaningful questions.
The Jew, as the Muslim and the Christian and the rest of us are disposable. I don't think we're really interested in disposing of each other. We're human. So why is it so easy for so many of us to take shelter in the dominion heresies?
Because that's what our owners in the gilded palaces of the exchange make us think.
The seduction of righteous evil is sometimes difficult to deny.
Anon(1:55am), you say -- AIPAC IS NOT an Israeli Lobby (but there are advantages to claiming to be so!). If AIPAC was the all powerful Israeli Lobby, then why is Israel the most hated state on earth? Why is Israel always at war? Why is Israel periodically unable to to pay public sector employees (for up to 6 months)? Why is Israel on the dowel to US taxpayers (30 Billion this year)?
You answer your own questions. Israel is at war because it has an expansionist policy in Palestine and a foreign policy of destabilizing and neutering other countries in the region. To achieve these ends it utilizes US money and good will. AIPAC and JINSA play leading roles in US policy formation in support of those aims. (The same people who formed AIPAC also founded the America Turkish Council (ATC) the subject of Sibel Edmonds claims about corruption and drugs and arms trafficking through Turkey and Israel.)
I'm afraid I can't really see what you're driving at when you say "AIPAC IS NOT an Israeli Lobby". It may not represent ordinary Israelis but I don't think that detracts from the evidence that AIPAC clearly IS an Israeli Lobby. I have discussed this previously.
AIPAC is a lobby for the war and oil exchanges, and, along with other so called holocaust and settlement industries, hides behind Jews, all the while promoting hateful doctrine, dominion heresies and reformation.
I'm sorry, but none of this makes sense. AIPAC is made up of Jews (by religious belief), Israelis (by citizenship) and various US high level politicians and public servants. So who exactly are these unidentified people you say are "hiding behind Jews"? If there's a deeper conspiracy going on here, spill the beans. If you believe there is some underlying global Jewish-Zionist- CFR- Rothschilds -Illuminati whatever conspiracy going on then spell it out. As I said before, vague generalizations about Israel, the US and 911 are unhelpful because they usually raise a lot of heat and not much light.
Anon, I may be misreading you. You point to Israeli mob links. Is that what you are talking about? Do you have any evidence that AIPAC is just a front for organized crime?
Damien,
What's in a name? If you watch C-SPAN, you may have noticed from time to time, an organization called The "Peace Institute".
What a name - huh? Gets us all hot to turn on the TV to watch these Peace Institute fellows tear up the establishment and sound our hopes on the public podium.
But, if you've ever seen one of the "Peace Institutes" gatherings you would learn that all the "Peace Institute" does is call for an attack on Iran.
As far as AIPAC and organized crime: What could be more of an ongoing criminal enterprise than another misnomer, the government of the United States of America.
Remember the Posada guy, a Cuban American, that escaped from a prison for bombing a South American Airliner. His bomb killed seventy people. When he escaped from prison, he cam to the United States. Once here, and this was recent, he was set free.
This administration's genocidal lies and that one of many blips (letting Posada get away with mass murder) is just a micro node of the crimes we've allowed our government to execute over the last many years.
AIPAC is going to trial in April for corrupting defense officials. AIPAC was involved in coordinating naval officer Pollards sale of a trillion bucks of US copyrights to the USSR.
What's in a name, Damien?
Our congress is largely funded from a collection plate passed by AIPAC through the executive corridors of the Oil and War Exchanges. Some Senators and congressmen have received almost a Million bucks from AIPAC alone. Like Levey of Michigan, Durbin of Illinois and the ex Democrat Senate Majority from Dakota.
AIPAC could care less about Israel. AIPAC hasn't done a thing for Israel. AIPAC considers many Jews as the enemy.
There was an Israeli poll a couple of years ago that graded Israel support for US congressmen. The congressmen who received no donations from AIPAC and were most vocal about the Palestinian issue, like Paul, like Kuncinche, ranked the highest. The lowest rated were the the ones most ardent for more war and repression, like Lantos and Harmond (both Jews).
The Israel the mainstream mafia poetrays to us yokels in Dog Patch America is not the real Israel.
AIPAC garnered the 1.6 Billion taxpayer funds to cover the costs of the cluster bombs Israel dropped on Lebanese children in the late summer of 2006. A good advisor would have warned Israel that that act was a war crime, A good adviser would have advised Israel what we all knew would happen should Israel attempt to engage Lebanese militia - that they would loose - and Israel did loose.
Israel is a market maker - a loss leader for a global arms trade. The 30 Billion we gave Israel is but p*ss in a bucket compared to the Trillions the War and Oil Housed raked in.
Whats in a name, Damien?
As for crimes of AIPAC, we need look no further than the Trillions in profits of extortion, genocide and fraud their clients (KBR, Exxon, ATT, United Defense, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, General Electric, etc) have reaped over the years.
Would anybody in their right mind want to live in Israel. To smell the puss blood flowing from the broken sewers of Gaza and spent summer days listening the popping bloated corpses of Palestinian Children.
Israel is not Zion. Israel is Dante's Inferno. That's a crime. The genocides of Afghanistan and Iraq are but two of the crimes AIPAC lobbied for in behalf of it's "real" clients, the War and Oil Exchanges.
Whats in a name Damien?
Remember Orwell's 1984: "love is hate", "truth is lie", "war is peace" and "2 + 2 = 3"..
What's in a name, Damien?
Nothing - it don't mean a thing.
It's easier to pick a pocket when the mark thinks you're affiliated with the myth of dominion heresy.
It's the way of the world. A name don't mean nothing. Names are a lie.
btw, please start using words as though they actually mean something, anon. Not just as broad brush strokes intended to create a wave of revulsion whenever the word "Israel" is used.
It's easier to pick a pocket when the mark thinks you're affiliated with the myth of dominion heresy. -- you seem to be suggesting that "dominion heresy" (the protection of the Jewish state?) is not the real aim of Israeli leaders, but a public distraction from another, more real, purpose ("picking a pocket") which you elsewhere suggest is oil and arms profits from wars in Iraq and Iran. So why not just say so?
Israel is a market maker - a loss leader for a global arms trade. -- A "market maker" is one who dictates prices. A "loss leader" is an item sold below cost in order to get customers through the door buying other products. Yet Israel is both?
Whats in a name Damien?....Remember Orwell's 1984: "love is hate", "truth is lie", "war is peace" and "2 + 2 = 3"....What's in a name?...Nothing - it don't mean a thing....It's the way of the world. A name don't mean nothing. Names are a lie. -- Well, we'll just stop using words altogether then, is that your idea?
Look, here's the problem. Some Israelis get angry and call people terrorists unless they explicitly support everything that Israel does. And some critics of Israel get angry and call people deluded unless they hyperventilate whenever Israel or Jews are mentioned. Neither position constitutes reasoned argument. Tone down the outrage and bump up the evidence and you might just convince more people.
Some Israelis get angry and call people terrorists unless they explicitly support everything that Israel does.
As do under educated American evangelicals when confronted with the facts our time.
Do under educated American evangelicals rule the world or make any more of a difference than their Israeli Zionist counterparts?
The Israelis it seems that you're suggesting have so much control over the world have no more control over their lives or the direction of worldly affairs than their under educated Christian Zionist's in the states. One difference is that the Israeli, in his arrogance, has neglected to spot the crocodile tears of the red neck Evangelical who really sees the Israeli as little more than Rapture Bait - a soulless entity `bout to get fried.
And the Israelis seen quite content to queue themselves up for the box cars. Look at Israel's last invasion of Lebanon. The IDF was defeated by a rag tag band of village Militia. Many knew all along that Israel would loose both the PR and ground war in that engagement, as well as jeopardizing the so called Israeli leadership with more war crimes counts.
So if a dork like me knew before it even happened that Lebanese village militia armed with small arms and bottle rockets was going to stick it to the dumb downed pretense at Judea Israel represents, it's a bet a bunch of other people knew it to.
So why did Israel do it? Well, of course the Congress of the United States of Holocaust Remembrance, gave more taxpayer credits to the cluster bomb makers for the 1.6 Billion Israeli dropped cluster ordinance. Then they gave a few million for band aids to patch Lebanese children's cluster bomb shrapnel wounds.
How many more hundreds of Billions went to the bomb makers and oil masters for the few shekels Israel got? How many more has the pretense at Judea made for the War and Oil Exchange through their criminality in Palestine - Trillions upon Trillions - and all for a fist full of shekels.
US taxpayers pay for over 400 foreign US bases - and all under contract to the company our vice president was once CEO for.
Why isn't Cheney running for President? (he he he).
Recently, MSNBC's written transcript of an interview with Ralph Nader misspelled AIPAC. I read blogs where people were commenting how dumb MSNBC was. But there was a reason for miss-spelling the name of the company that lobbies on behalf of the GE board, AIPAC, in the written transcript - can you guess? So that an MSNBC news item would NOT show up under a google search for AIPAC!
MSNBC is owned by Microsoft. Every soldier and war machine in theater has one to several hundred Microsoft CE licenses. MSNBC is also owned by General Electric - GE makes the Catlin Guns that fire the DU bullets (also manufactured by GE) and almost all the turbines in all the war machines in theater.
GE and Microsoft are not owned by Jews. Look at boards of directors for big media - they've become defense contractor clubs.
The reason the military was downsized was so that it could be privatized (Black Water KBR etc etc).
Israel is the loss leader - sold below market to assure Big Sticker sales for missile defense, Iraq, 200$ Barrel Oil, crowd control technology, US concentration camp contracts for KBR.
America did not attack Iraq. All the surveys leading up to the attack showed a super majority against the war crime Iraq. Israeli's are not attacking Palestine. An Israeli, away from scrutiny has the same opinion of the crime in Palestine as many have.
The War and Oil Exchanges attacked Iraq. The War and Oil Exchanges are the mob bosses behind the crimes in Palestine.
Israel has about 25% redneck Zealot Dumb Downed Jewish Pretenders. Jews don't behave like that. Thats the behavior of Zealots. America is about 25% Dumb Downed Christian Pretenders. Christians don't behave like that - [again] only Zealots behave like that.
The government of Israel and the government of the US are owned by the same War and Oil Exchanges. The media is owned by the War and Oil Exchanges.
The reason you see almost nothing but Jewish pretenders in the media, sitting behind our congressional representatives (staff) and as agency heads - we even have Israelis running many of our agencies is because that's the way the Exchanges that own the government want it.
The Holocaust and Tribulated Mythologies of the poor poor pretense at Judea make it politically incorrect to challenge a policy or process without suffering the consequence of being labeled anti-semitic.
We should have pity for our poor dumb downed pretense at Christianity Evangelicals, just as we should pity the our poor poor pretense at Judea the Dumbed Downed Zionists of Israel appear to be.
Neither group controls anything. They are inexpensive actors (loss leaders) to create an economic model that allows non competitive businesses to avoid knocking on doors to make a sale and simply demonstrate to congress through the power of Zealot noise to use our treasure to buy more wars - more bombs and assure a wide spread between an oil purchase contract and an oil sale contract.
Damien, you may be giving insignificance too much importance. The dumbed down Zealots don't control or have anything except their mythology and empty lives. If we concentrate on the insignificant, we might miss an opportunity to deal with issues that are truly important.
Think big - the crime is much bigger than a rag tag pretense at Judea. Much bigger.
OK anon, I think I understand your views a little better. I don't agree with everything you say but you raise some interesting points and you are certainly correct about the pervasiveness of the MIC. Cheers.
Len, here's a few links to add to your 9/11 list in the unlikely case that you missed them --
911 hijacker Hamza Al-Ghamdi who allegedly flew into the south tower of the WTC had been booked on post-911 flights.
And the 911 Commission reports that al-Mihdar and al-Hazmi arrived in the US on Jan 15 2001 and "spent about two weeks there before moving to San Diego."
All fine, except that the just released FBI time line contradicts this claim, placing the alleged hijackers in San Diego as soon as they arrived.
Paul Thompson, author of the The Terror Timeline, suggests that the Commission lied to cover for Saudi involvement.
He points to the redaction of the name of a person who was a known employee of a Saudi defense contractor, Omar al-Bayoumi, who lived at the same location as the hijackers.
Omar al-Bayoumi is a real piece of work (read about him here). By all appearances he was a "meet and greet" agent for the Saudi government sent to welcome Mihdar and Hazmi and handle their US accommodation and paperwork.
It also appears that the CIA believed that Mihdar and Hazmi were Saudi intelligence agents and were trying to recruit them (which is why they didn't tell the FBI of their presence in the US). The FBI later "investigated" Omar al-Bayoumi and another US Saudi, Osama Basnan, concluded there was no evidence of their involvement in 911 [you won't believe that if you read Paul Thompson's account] and they closed down the investigation:
Sen. Bob Graham (D) had cochaired the 9/11 Congressional Inquiry that found considerable evidence tying these two men to two 9/11 hijackers and also to the Saudi government. When he sees this news report, he contacts the FBI and is told the report is not correct and that the investigation into the two men is still ongoing. A month later, FBI Director Robert Mueller tells Graham that the report was correct, and the case has been closed. Graham asks Mueller to speak to the two FBI agents who reached this conclusion and find out why they reached it. He asks that he should be allowed the same access to them that the Associated Press had been given. Both Mueller and Attorney General John Ashcroft refuse to give clearance for the agents to speak to Graham. Graham then writes a letter with Sen. Arlen Specter (R), again asking for clarification and the right to meet with the agents. Their request is denied. Graham concludes that this is something it "seems that neither the FBI nor the Bush administration wants the American people to find out about."
See what you've become and get yourself some much needed help:
Dr. Sanity
Shining a psychological spotlight on a few of the insanities of life.
Saturday, March 01, 2008
DEEP DENIAL
"Eventually, however, denial has to escalate. It breeds delusional thinking, along with paranoia and then the inevitable conspiracy theories begin to take the place of rational thought in those who deny reality for long periods of time. (See all the 9/11 conspiracy theorists for examples in our own country;..."
http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2008/03/deep-denial.html
Let me see... one of the 9/11 hijackers had booked on later flights, a fact apparently confirmed by FBI documents. Yeah, that really sounds like a delusional fixation. I see you are a real medico, Dr Sanity, and I've looked at your blog, living proof of the delusional behavior you caution against. Your ideas on the political Left are absolute bunkum.
The Left is far too busy to promote freedom for the common man or woman, because their time is taken up advocating freedom for tyrants who oppress the common man; terrorists who kill the common man; and religious fanatics who subjugate the common woman.
There are a million dead in Iraq due to Bush's illegal and immoral invasion in pursuit of oil. That's a TYRANT, Dr Sanity.
And then there's 23-year old journalist Pervez Kambaksh, sentenced to death for downloading information about women's rights in Afghanistan.
You are a conservative medico stuck with an idealized 1960s view of life, Dr.Sanity, one who simply gathers ideas to support his conservative beliefs. You don't know much about politics. Stop blogging and start reading. At the moment you're a joke, joke, joke.
Sorry Doc, you're a her not a he. My bad. Probably just a part of my delusional fixations....
Doctor, for an educated person, your views are just downright silly.
It is important to reiterate that the use of postmodern rhetoric is usually a desperate attempt on the part of the denier when he recognizes that logic, reason, and reality actually argue against his beliefs or purposes. This strategy can often take the form of redefining or distorting language and ideas so that they conform to ones pre-existing attitudes and emotions.
EXAMPLE: "Everything is relative anyway."
So which foreign government actively asisted the 9/11 terrorists? Why would the Head of the 911 Congressional Inquiry make this claim? Why would you not want to know which foreign government did this?
EXAMPLE: "Objective truth does not exist."
So how did Flight 77 knock down power poles at the Pentagon when the official flight data recorder has the plane at 100 feet just before impact? Who's in denial here, Doc?
EXAMPLE: "Truth is relative and my feelings are just as important as your facts."
And that's why NIST failed to conduct a proper examination of the collapse of the WTC towers.
EXAMPLE: "My reality is just as significant as yours"
And that's why the 911 Commission felt free to make up complete bullshit and feed it to uncritical hacks the world over.
EXAMPLE: "Reality is an illusion."
Obviously. They're your standards, Doc. Why don't you just apply them.
Hey, I didn't know Kant was a commie. LOL!
Great work, anon. You post anonymously and say nothing of consequence. Par for the course.
damien, don't sweat anons. From here forward, I will delete all anonymous, ad hominems. I've had it with these evil idiots!
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