Thursday, December 11, 2008

Why Noam Chomsky is Dead Wrong About 911!

by Len Hart, The Existentialist Cowboy
"I mean even if it [US GOVERNMENT COMPLICITY IN THE 9/11 ATTACKS] were true, which is extremely unlikely, who cares? I mean it doesn't have any significance."

-Noam Chomsky
Noam, I care! I care because the very document that created the United States --the US Constitution --tells us in precise and legal language that the American people are 'sovereign'. If the US government --the 'hired hands' whom we, the people, have tasked with the day to day job of governance --is in any way complicit in the attacks of 911, then the crimes of mass murder and high treason have been perpetrated against the people! That matters! If 911 was an inside job, then we have no legitimate government! I call that 'significance'!

Noam, you have, in fact, said that the crime of 911 should not be investigated. If 911 should not be investigated then no crime should be investigated. If no crime should be investigated, then the rule of law means nothing. You have granted to Bush and other known criminals arbitrary, illogical and illegal exceptions to the rule of law. The consequences are disastrous. The 'rule of law', by definition, applies to all or it applies to none!

If you disagree, Noam, please explain to the American people how the exceptions are chosen and justified; upon what dubious principle are they derived? Since when and upon what hypocritical standard are the crimes of mass murder and high treason ignored? Since when are overt criminals given a pass? A 'two tiered' system of justice is an oxymoron! And that, again, is highly significant!

It is highly significant that Noam Chomsky has not said that Bush and his administration were innocent of the crime of 911! His position --as I understand it --is that it just doesn't matter. If any murder matters, this one matters! If any MASS murder matters, this one matters. If the Reichstag Fire mattered, 911 matters. It matters even if Bush were innocent and more so if he is guilty. 911 matters!

This is not only a moral and a philosophical issue, it's a legal one. If the 911 culprits are not investigated, charged, tried and sentenced, a horrible precedent will have been set. We will have sent 'government' a signal that says: "You are no longer responsible to the electorate and the people are no longer sovereign"! It follows inexorably and logically, that if the people are no longer sovereign, then the rest of the US Constitution is invalid. The Constitutional commentary by the venerable Joseph Story is absolutely correct that the Constitution --the Preamble specifically --established as a matter of law the sovereignty of the people themselves.
The preamble never can be resorted to, to enlarge the powers confided to the general government, or any of its departments. It cannot confer any power per se; it can never amount, by implication, to an enlargement of any power expressly given. It can never be the legitimate source of any implied power, when otherwise withdrawn from the constitution. Its true office is to expound the nature, and extent, and application ofthe powers actually conferred by the constitution, and not substantively to create them

--Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States

It is the principle upon which everything else in the Constitution follows and is based. If the Constitution is 'invalid', then the United States government is illegitimate, the US is not a nation, no law is valid, no tax is just, no expenditure for public purposes is legal. That Bush sought to expand his power far beyond the express powers of the executive is an undisputed matter of fact and record. He could not have done so without 911! It matters!

Noam, if your house were burgled or set fire to, it would matter to you to ensure that the culprits are caught and brought to justice. The people of the US have sustained more egregious offenses against their persons. Some three thousand in New York were murdered. No doubt you support the prosecution of 'lone gunmen' but oppose the prosecution of murderers if they are assisted by government bureaucracies and/or officials!

It matters!
The memory of victims demand that the truth of 911 be known! Millions care! I care! And so should you!

Elsewhere, with 911 every man, woman and child in the United States were denied the benefits of legitimate government!

It matters if Bush benefited in any way from 911. It matters whether or not he was complicit just as it matters if any other criminal is complicit in any other crime.

Following 911, the Bush administration set upon a campaign consisting of aggressive war abroad and the dismantling of legitimate government at home --both made possible upon the 911 pretext. Who cares? The living relatives of some 1.5 million Iraqis whom even Bush cannot credibly claim had anything to do with 911. But dead they are! It matters!

The fact, remains, however, that Bush might never have consolidated his coalition against Saddam had he not made the untruthful claim that Saddam had WMD. Additionally, he could never have claimed Saddam had WMD had he not been 'positioned' by the events of 911. It matters!

The impending financial collapse of the US is traced directly to the events of 911! But --as you say --who cares? I suspect that when the facts about 911 are investigated and made public, the number of those caring a great deal about those facts will increase by some one million each month, the number of those expected to begin losing their jobs each month! That's because Bush/GOP policies of greed and elitism held sway after 911. These are, specifically, policies like 'supply side' tax cuts' which benefit an increasingly tiny GOP elite. The 'tax cuts' and those who benefit from them owe much to 911! Who cares? Quick response: the millions now thrown out of work care a great deal! It matters!

There is no indication that this blood letting will level off at one million job loses per month. This sort of thing has a tendency to increase exponentially as did job losses following the crash of 1929. The nation cannot long sustain this. The collapse has begun and that is why every person in the world should care about who and why 911!

Some things are better NOT rebuilt --the Roman Empire and the Third Reich are but two examples. Buildings are simply the way in which bricks, mortar, and steel are arranged. But institutions, like the Roman Empire, may be lasting --but only for as long as they are required. Rome outlived its usefulness; the Third Reich --its welcome. The US may have outlived its welcome AND its usefulness. We will never understand its precipitous fall unless we first understand 911. It matters!
I would like to ask Noam Chomsky to explain on what basis he contends that 9/11 is irrelevant and how Howard Zinn can state that it's "in the past" (certainly an odd position for a historian). Their position seems at odds with the current paradigm:

Obama recently promising billions in "aid" for Afghanistan: "the Afghan farmer hasn't seen any improvement in his life"

Tom Brokaw responds:

"Here's something else that Afghan farmer has never seen nor have any of his ancestors ever seen this: foreign powers coming into Afghanistan and being effective and staying very long."

--An Open Letter to Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn

Apres US, le deluge! Many will be swamped. We would hope that the 'survivors' will make a better world but will not, cannot if 911 remains a mystery, an unsolved crime of unspeakable evil and cruelty! If not, this will all be repeated as it has, in fact, repeated throughout history.
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to relive it!"

--Georges Santayana, American Philosopher

25 comments:

kenny said...

9/11 matters and Chomsky does not.
He became irrelevant when he exposed himself as a shill for the cover up.

The darling of the left has really always been a part of the controlled opposition.

...and thanks for the hat tip Len.

Anonymous said...

I loved all the great information on politics and thought it was very interesting along with all the great information inside the news articles. Thank you very much great job!

marain said...

Thank you for keeping the issue of 9/11 alive, Len. One of my fears is that, as time passes, it will begin to matter less and less to many people, especially those who accept the official conspiracy theory. I recently spoke with my sister who was startled by the idea that it was an inside job, so I sent her the 9/11 Mysteries and the 9-11 Blueprint For Truth DVDs.

I enjoyed reading the input from steven andresen here. It's a startling thought that we have "a more thoughtful, discreet, guy in there now" because of some hidden dons who have allowed it to happen. I want to investigate this more.

I love your blog and have been reading it nearly every day (when possible) since I found it two years ago. I have learned so much from you about so many things! Thank you for all your hard work!

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Daryl said...

I loved all the great information on politics and thought it was very interesting along with all the great information inside the news articles.

Thanks, Daryl. opinions backed up with fact are even more important.

marain said...

Thank you for keeping the issue of 9/11 alive, Len. One of my fears is that, as time passes, it will begin to matter less and less to many people, especially those who accept the official conspiracy theory. I recently spoke with my sister who was startled by the idea that it was an inside job, so I sent her the 9/11 Mysteries and the 9-11 Blueprint For Truth DVDs.

Thanks for your very kind words and, I can assure you, posts and comments here are always read and, I know, appreciated by the visitors here.

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barry gillis said...

I suppose you are not interested in what chomsky really has said,or are not capable of understanding his words, prove yourself to be an openminded person and discuss his words, not your interpretation of his words.

I quoted Chomsky word for word! Now if CHOMSKY has a problem with that, then CHOMSKY can debate me. Set the time and place.

Secondly, the THREAD I deleted didn't BOTHER to address the issues I raised in this article! It was a irrelevant strawman fallacy from start to finito!

Now --it would appear that Chomsky's self-appointed and cult-like defenders --having NOT ADDRESSED A SINGLE POINT I'VE RAISE --are comfortable with both the blinders and the huge log in their eyes.

Now --If you wish to raise legitimate points instead of strawmen, have at it!

Otherwise, this thread is closed. My challenge to Chomsky, however, is always open.

A final shot --I don't give shit for sacred cows be they conservative OR faux left!

Anonymous said...

Len
I read your blog pretty often and find it provocative, interesting, and usually to my mind, right. I am going to list it on my bloglist (as if you need it) and if you care you might list mine here.
See www.jonjost.wordpress.com and www.cinemaelectronica.wordpress.com
and also, see www.jon-jost.com

I am a filmmaker of 4 plus decades.
thanks

jon jost

would have written email but couldn't find here

Unknown said...

Jon Jost said...

I am a filmmaker of 4 plus decades.

Thanks, Jon! I am happy to add you to my blog roll --here and on Class Acts as well.

Filmmaking is one of my passions. I have an pretty extensive BG in still photography on all formats. I shot a tiny budget movie once and got some offers in Hollywood. A couple of projects are still pending. Right now --I shoot DV and HD, edit with Sony Vegas.

I read your blog pretty often and find it provocative, interesting

Thanks, jon! It would appear, of late, that the left has as many sacred cows as does the right. What may be provocative about the current 'article' is that I might have pissed off some folk by pointing out a 'leftist' hypocrisy no less odious than the endemic hypocrisies upon which the right wing is founded.

If the left is to credibly criticize Bush for lying, then it simply MUST insist upon the truth about 911 as well as Iraq!!!!!!!!!

911 was a crime. Investigating it fully is a moral issue.

If crimes are no longer investigated for POLITICAL reasons, then there is simply NO rule of law. Bush wins! I won't buy that. If that pisses off those enamored of Chomsky --so be it.

Anonymous said...

But of course it doesn't matter, not to those 1.5 million dead in Iraq.

Not much matter to the dead, they're too busy being worm food.

And it doesn't matter to the people of Afghanistan, that nation that was willing to hand over Bin Laden to the Bush/Cheney Junta, if ONLY they would provide actual evidence that BL was behind the 9/11 attacks.

Evidence?

Bah! Humbug!!

We create our own reality and if you don't like what we're doing now, just give us another day or two and we'll make you forget 9/11.... by launching another attack on America that will make 9/11 pale by comparison.

It doesn't matter?

Why, because each and every day, more truths are coming out about 9/11, making people wonder how in the hell some Arab flunkies that couldn't even pilot a single-engine Cessna could fly one of the world's most advanced jets, a 757, into the WTC and Pentagon?

It does matter, only it's starting to get a little too hot for some people who were actually behind 9/11 and that is something they can't afford to get out.

Unknown said...

Greg sez...

We create our own reality and if you don't like what we're doing now, just give us another day or two and we'll make you forget 9/11.... by launching another attack on America that will make 9/11 pale by comparison.

You hit the nail on the head, Greg! And thanks!

Indeed, one of the things that is totally FUCKED UP about America is how it GOT fucked up by the kind of psuedo-intellectuals that both Chomsky and Zinn have, of late, proven themselves to be.

I put it to them in this way: you are either for the TRUTH in every instance about everything ---OR you are for lies and bullshit in every instance about everything. In short --you are either for us or against us.

Something is either a lie or it is not! There is no middle ground. 911 is a lie and that it was NOT investigated is a fact!

Goodbye Zinn; Goodbye Chomsky!

Chris Dashiell said...

I'm one of those who likes Chomsky and have learned a great deal from him. So it absolutely baffles me why he would say such an absurd thing. When a policy of imperialist aggression is based on the interpretation of the 9/11 atrocity, how could the truth about said atrocity be irrelevant?
Perhaps the Cowboy could explain to me how a putative anti-imperialist could persuade himself of such a thing.

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Chris Dashiell said...

When a policy of imperialist aggression is based on the interpretation of the 9/11 atrocity, how could the truth about said atrocity be irrelevant?

Good question! But we are supposed to believe that 911 'doesn't matter'! I find that kind of thinking fallacious, naive, incomprehensible, illogical, perhaps even self-indulgent!

Perhaps the Cowboy could explain to me how a putative anti-imperialist could persuade himself of such a thing.

I wouldn't presume! I've never been as interested in 'personalities' as I am interested in 'ideas'. Admittedly, the relationship of personalities to ideas can be enlightening. Karl Marx is a case in point even though it is true that Marx's position may be evaluated intellectual even if one is ignorant of Marx's life, personal experiences with poverty, or even the historical and sociological context in which Marx was productive.

In Chomsky's case, I suspect he is an academic who suddenly found himself with a political following.

I doubt Chomsky ever 'walked a block', handed out a flyer, or 'booked' a candidate.

Anonymous said...

What really worries them is the truth revealed--Israel took part.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous is right!
Many worry that if Israel played even a supporting role with Dick Cheney as mastermind, the Jews would be blamed. Would the American people turn on American Jews? I don't think so, but I understand why many don't want to find out. If the truth became known and accepted, I believe the US as well as Israel would have a change in form of government, not just a change in the members of government. Both countries would have "governments of national salvation" with constitutional conventions. Military takeovers would be a distinct possibility.
Compared with the likely result, knowing the truth is a luxury many believe we cannot afford. Sorry, I want the truth regardless. "Let justice be done though the heavens fall."

Unknown said...

And my position is:

INVESTIGATE 911 LIKE ANY OTHER MASS MURDER!

If Israel is found to be complicit based upon evidence, then Israel should pay just like any other criminal.

If Chomsky is afraid of the truth for political reasons, then he should be exposed.

In the meantime, there is absolutely NO MORAL JUSTIFICATION for the failure, indeed, the overt and deliberate decision to cover up the crime of 911.

If there should be hell to pay, let the CULPRITS pay it IN hell!

Anonymous said...

Chomsky and Zinn are obviously gatekeepers for the Zionists, no doubt put on the payroll to run interference for them regarding 9/11. One reason they can bring themselves to stoop so low is because they believe in the Zionists' world dominion agenda. They are infected with the spirit that drives it and are therefore shielded from having a conscience concerning it. Another reason has to do with the saying 'we hate those who we hurt.' Once someone makes the first step toward hurting another person each ensuing step is easier than the one before, and so on, until it can actually develop into a sort of a sport. After that all they feel for their victim is contempt. They become dead to such feelings as compassion and pity and become therefore nothing more walking corpses; in their case, walking corpses who know how to type.

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Jim Yost said...

Chomsky and Zinn are obviously gatekeepers for the Zionists, no doubt put on the payroll to run interference for them regarding 9/11.

And so it would appear. In any case, their POSITIONS are absolutely indefensible --logically or morally.

I won't be buying any other books by either!

Worth repeating: there is ABSOLUTELY NO MORAL JUSTIFICATION for their participating in the cover up of 911.

Anonymous said...

If someone has any actual proof - one piece of scientifically proven piece of evidence - they have not to date produced anything. Theories that have more holes than Swiss cheese being proffered by weak minds like democrats - there is more physical artefacts to prove Jesus was god or that UFOs are landing i.e. ZERO!

Get jobs people - Pray that we can defeat the evil of terror like we are destroying drugs!


let us not quibble over details and some discrepancies with the Executive office - these things happen in War. Let us rather huddle together and pray that if we join and increase our efforts the War on Terror will become even half as successful as our War on Drugs.

Move on folks .....

Let us move on from these mean spirited attacks against what historians will no doubt call a hero of the state. Mr. Rove and the President need our Support in these trying times. Huddling together in prayer will go a long way to healing Amerika.

Anonymous said...

Did the US gov't allow/participate in 9/11?

The answer to that query would explain the illegal wire-taps, suspension of habeas corpus, banning of books like "America Deceived" from Amazon, detaining of dissenters in fences miles away from events, and multiple wars based on lies.

How can the gov't be innocent in 9/11 when we have caught it lying so many times (WACO, Ruby Ridge, no WMDs, USS Liberty, Operation Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin, Pearl Harbor, ETC.)?

In law, if you determine a person lies ONCE during his testimony, it can be assumed that he lied in the remainder of his testimony. How come we do not hold the gov't to the same standard as it holds us to?

The gov't lied to us about Iraq and more Americans have died there than in 9/11. If the gov't lied about Iraq then why is everyone so reluctant to believe that the gov't lied about 9/11?

Final link (before Google Books bends to pressure and drops the title):
America Deceived (book)

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Anonymous said...

The answer to that query would explain the illegal wire-taps, suspension of habeas corpus, banning of books like "America Deceived" from Amazon, detaining of dissenters in fences miles away from events, and multiple wars based on lies.

I have opinion about that which I've previously posted and defended. But the issue here is not Bush's guilt or innocence--or even that of the govt. It's Chomsky/Zinn's indefensible position that CRIMES should not be investigated, the truth should not be sought!

Thanks to idiots like Chomsky and Zinn, that very real question of complicity may NEVER be addressed in manner compatible with the rule of law.

If they were a couple of neerdowell jerk offs like Bill O'Reilly or Bill Maher, it wouldn't matter so much.

But --for noted 'intellectuals' to come out AGAINST finding the truth is simply unforgivable.

Anonymous said...

Aside of crimes, politics, Chomsky 9/11 must be investigated just for engineering reasons alone. Unless engineers understand what brought the building down exactly, there is no point of building (or occupying) tall steel buildings. Without such knowledge the tall buildings are just too dangerous

Anonymous said...

I think most will aggree that 9/11 was the announced "reason" for our invasion of the ME. Noam, if that can't be investigated then what can? If 9/11 is proven to be an inside job, wouldn't you aggree that all events thereafter were based on lies? Noam has made it clear which team he is on.

profnasty said...

It should be obvious by now, Chomsky is a Zionist. His opinions are his own and they bear little relation to the real world. He believes the Jews are aliens posessed of the "spirit of God". They are physically different from the goyim, ie US. Take it all with a grain of salt. Zionists have caused all of the wars of the 20th century. Still love 'em? Me neither.

Jimmy said...

El Dunderheadarino's take about Chomsky seeing 9/11 as a mere drop in the bucket compared to America's many other and worse atrocities is a perfect example of the 'red herring' falacious arguing style, that is introduced to distract attention away from the original argument, which in this case has to do with Chomsky's traitorious suggestion that any investigation into the 9/11 scam is a waste of time and energy.

El Dunderheadarino subtly suggest that 9/11 only rates a millionth on the importance scale of the more important things Chomsky has to deal with, yet in reality 9/11 is probably the most maleovalent scam ever perpetrated in all of human history. He then tries to apply what is called 'Argumentum ad misericordiam' (argument or an appeal to pity) by inferring 'Come on, Chomsky is an old man so please quit picking on him.'

El Dunderheadarino is in all liklihood a Zionist shill who's job is to surf around on the alternative news sites and attempt to diffuse any scutiny of the Zionist agendas or of those who cheerlead those agendas. He has some amount of expertice, but in this case he was too overconfident (and in too much of a hurry) that his ruse would be swallowed without a word of protest.Too bad it didn't work asshole, next time slow down and think before you spew.

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El Duderino said...

You appear to miss the most obvious point Chomsky is making. I believe it has something to do with the emotional nature of your argument.

Rather --YOU have missed the point that my position is based upon cold hard logic, the scientific method specifically from which derives the ONLY ethic as best articulated by Jacob Bronouski. Secondly, my position is based upon case law and the Constitution ---none of which are 'emotional'.

At last --the rule of law applies OR it does not! There is absolutely NOTHING emotion about that. I, rather, think the emotion to be found on this issue is the SENTIMENTAL attachment that misguided left-wingers have attached to Chomsky.

If it were anyone else, would you, in those cases, abandoned common sense, logic, law, the rule of law, the principles upon which the Constitution derive by LOGIC --not emotion.

I believe I spoke earlier of LOGS and how they appear to have lodged in the eyes of those who have IRRATIONALLY defended Chomsky.

Emotion has nothing to do with this. But the IRRATIONAL defense of Chomsky does!

Unknown said...

At last --I ask those whose defense of Chomsky is utterly irrational: since when are CRIMES not investigated?

What is the LEGAL justification for NOT inventing the crime of the century?

Wake up, folk!

911 was a crime!

I am just not interested in wasting time with a lot of BULLSHIT and POLITICAL reasons why IRRATIONAL exceptions are to be made in this case.

Significant, not a single point raised in my article has been competently refuted by those who adoration of Chomsky is utterly irrational and bordering on 'rock star' worship.